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Accepted: McKenzie - Marquette University

Undergraduate education: Saint Louis University

Overall GPA: 3.79

GRE: 309

PA-CAT: N/A

Total PCE hours: I had completed 1248 hours at the time that I submitted CASPA, although I was still working throughout my gap year. I worked as a dental assistant at an office specializing in TMJ disorders and sleep apnea.

Shadowing hours: I spent 34 hours shadowing in several specialities including OB/GYN, maternal-fetal medicine, and sleep neurology.

Volunteer hours: I volunteered in an emergency department as an ambassador in the waiting room for a semester, but the majority of my hours came from my heavy participation in Dance Marathon. I also did various one day volunteering events through various clubs/organizations including my sorority.

How many times did you apply?:  I was lucky enough to be accepted on my first application cycle!

Age: 22

Gender: Female

How many programs did you apply to? 13

How many programs did you interview with and what were the outcomes? 3 interviews, 2 waitlist, 1 acceptance! (I was also on a couple interview waitlists that I never came off of)

Where will you be attending? Marquette University

Anything you found interesting about interviews? They did not ask about my patient care experience!

Were there any helpful resources (books, websites, webinars, etc) you used to get through prerequisites courses, the application or interview process? I listened to a lot of podcasts as I was going through the application and interview process. Pre-PA Club, Scrubbed Out Podcast, and The Making of a Physician Assistant were some of my favorites!

Any advice for other pre-PA students? Be yourself in interviews! Interviewers can tell if you seem too rehearsed/unnatural. Prepare, but don’t over-prepare!

Where can we find you? (Instagram, TikTok, Website, etc) - @mypadiaries @mckenziewalz

Accepted: Kiara - Stony Brook University in New York

Undergraduate education: St. John's University in Queens, New York.

Overall GPA: My overall GPA and my science GPA were both a 3.75

Science GPA: 3.75

Total PCE hours: I had ~ 2,500 hours when I applied! I gained my experience by working as a phlebotomist and medical assistant for a pain management practice.

Total HCE hours: I gained 40 hours of HCE by volunteering for an occupational therapist.

Shadowing hours: Because of COVID, I only had ~ 5 shadowing hours at the time of my application, and these were done virtually. I would definitely recommend having more hours than I did!

Volunteer hours: I had ~ 115 volunteer hours. The majority of those hours came from volunteering as a mentor/tutor to international students whose native language was not English.

How many times did you apply?:  1

Age: 24

Gender: Female

Why PA? After receiving medical care in an underserved area, I realized I wanted to be in a position that makes a difference in this type of environment. I did my research and learned how PAs have a unique role to make that difference.

How many programs did you apply to? Only 5! Risky? Maybe, but I was confident in what I had to offer.

How many programs did you interview with and what were the outcomes? Applied to 5 programs. Offered 3 interviews. Attended 2 of those interviews - 1 immediate acceptance (Stony Brook University) and 1 waitlist that turned into an acceptance (Tufts University).

Where will you be attending? Stony Brook University in New York

Anything you found interesting about interviews? Although both of my interviews were rather traditional in style, they were so different! I found one interview to be very relaxed and conversational, while the other was very structured and intentional. I enjoyed both interview experiences and I can't stress the importance of thinking of the interview as a structured conversation. Your interviewers want to get to know you and how you will fit into their program so stay true to who you are!

Were there any helpful resources (books, websites, webinars, etc) you used to get through prerequisites courses, the application or interview process? Throughout the interview process, I used The PA School Interview Guide by Savanna Perry which was super helpful. I also watched some mock PA school interviews on YouTube and thought about how I would answer the questions asked. Lastly, I did a mock interview with the PA Platform.

Any advice for other pre-PA students? My 2 best pieces of advice: 1. Don't be afraid to take the gap year(s)! I learned so much during the year I took to gain my PCE hours and it was without a doubt, a valuable year. 2. Always ask questions and reach out. If you come across a student who attends your dream PA school, reach out and ask them how the program is from a student's perspective. Make those connections!

Where can we find you? Instagram: @kiaramenn

Accepted: Angela - Drexel University

Undergraduate education: Kean University

Overall GPA: 3.53

Science GPA: 3.59

Total PCE hours: Medical Scribe at a pediatric office, EMT, and medical assistant.

Total HCE hours: Genetic counseling assistant, OT/PT aide, and volunteering.

Shadowing hours: 32 - Family medicine and worked in the ED for 8 months shadowing the PAs

Volunteer hours: 300

How many times did you apply?:  2

Age: 30

Gender: Female

Why PA? As a PA, I hope to expand access to medical care! I saw first hand the difference between those who have access to healthcare compared to those who do not. I hope I could help bridge the gap, and make healthcare more accessible.

How many programs did you apply to? 7

How many programs did you interview with and what were the outcomes? 3 interviews: 1 waitlist, 1 rejection, 1 acceptance.

Where will you be attending? Drexel University

Were there any helpful resources (books, websites, webinars, etc) you used to get through prerequisites courses, the application or interview process? The interview guide and mock interview services offered through The PA Platform!

Any advice for other pre-PA students? Do not give up on your journey to become a PA ! I thought I was going to have to reapply for a third time before I got accepted. Remember why you are pursuing this profession, and be willing to work for it. Enjoy and trust the process! What's meant for you will always find a way!

Accepted: Adara - UNT Health Science Center PA Program in Fort Worth, Texas

Undergraduate education: Southern Methodist University

Overall GPA: 3.91

Science GPA: 3.82

GRE: 316 total with a 159 verbal and 157 quantitative. I also received a 5.0 for writing.

Total PCE hours: At the time of my application I had 2,400 hours of direct patient care. My experience came from a total of four roles. The summer before my senior year of college I became certified as a CNA and started working as a patient care tech in the ICU on the weekdays. To try to make the most of my summer, I also took a job on the weekends as a Rehabilitation Aide at a nursing home. This role was part CNA work, but mostly I helped a set schedule of patients with their daily rehab regimens ordered by their physicians. This included assisting with gait, performing splitting and contracture care, and facilitating passive and active range of motion exercises. I held both of these roles for a few months, but ultimately stopped working to focus on school work my senior year. I was a 2020 graduate with plans to start a clinics research position after graduation, but when Covid hit I had to unexpectedly move home and was told that the clinical research would be put on an indefinite hold. I was then forced to look for something new where I could get my hours, but still keep my family safe as I was living with my immunocompromised brother, so in May of 2020 I started a job as a remote medics scribe for a Neurosurgeon in Seattle! After a few months of that, I was able to move back to Dallas (where I went to college) and started a job as a Medical Assistant at a Urogynecology Clinic. I have been working as an MA for the last year and a half now!

Total HCE hours: I had 184 hours of healthcare experience. The bulk of my hours came from teaching CPR classes in college. I got involved with an organization on campus that paid for me to get my AHA BLS Instructor certification. In exchange, I taught class 1-2 nights a month for students, faculty and staff members for free! It was a perfect opportunity to get a lot of hours and get really comfortable with CPR. Later on, I also gained HCE by volunteering at Covid vaccination clinics doing anything from checking in patients, monitoring patient after their vaccinations, answering questions and administering vaccines.

Shadowing hours: I had 40 hours of in person shadowing with an Orthopedic Surgery PA. I shadowed with her for a few hours each year during my winter breaks home from school. It was great getting to build a relationship with her during that extended time period. I also had 27 hours of shadowing with a dermatology physician. With Covid, it was hard to find in person shadowing experience, so to expose myself to PAs in more specialties, I sought out 10 different practicing PAs to do “virtual shadowing” interviews with. This involved me speaking with them about their daily routine, they type of patients they see, their scope of practice and more. I also got to learn about their background and what brought them to the speciality they are current working in. Each PA had a unique perspective to share that I found very helpful and encouraging! While this type of “shadowing” certainly isn’t traditional, it was a great way to supplement my in person shadowing, expose myself to PAs in a variety of settings and make some amazing connections!

Volunteer hours: I volunteered a lot in college and when I applied I had 617 hours from several different organizations. I found most of my hours through on campus organizations that either host local events or connect students with ongoing service opportunities.

How many times did you apply?:  Twice! I applied originally in 2019 before my senior year of college. At that time I only had about 400 hours of experience and I submitted my application in mid August. I received two interviews and was placed on the waitlist for one program. Ultimately, I ended as the #1 seat on that programs waitlist, but was not accepted. My second application was not until this most recent cycle in 2021. This time my stats were much better and I made sure to apply early! I received 4 interview invites and was accepted right after my interview for one of my top choice programs!

Age: 23

Gender: Female

Why PA? I was initially drawn to the PA profession because in addition to clinical practice, I am also interested in other areas of healthcare such as teaching or administration. I felt that the PA role would provide the most flexibility, both in that sense and with the ability to change between specialities. As I started to interact with more PAs and learn more about the role, I loved the relationship PAs get to build with their patients and their coworkers. Being part of a team as an MA showed me how much I valued a collaborative role, yet really enjoy my individual time spent with patients. I also really appreciate how supportive the PA community has been. Every PA I have interacted with had been so welcoming and willing to help me with my journey in any way they can. I look forward to getting to do the same for pre-PA students who come after me!

How many programs did you apply to? 9

How many programs did you interview with and what were the outcomes? I received four interview invites, but only participated in two. My second interview was with a top choice school close to home, so after I was accepted I declined my invitation to interview with two other programs. The other interview I completed offered me a seat on the waitlist which I decided to decline as well.

Where will you be attending? I will be attending the UNT Health Science Center PA Program in Fort Worth, Texas!

Anything you found interesting about interviews? I was surprised with how many opportunities I was given to ask questions. I think because my interviews were over zoom a lot of programming involved time to ask questions at the end. I would make sure I was prepared with a few more questions handy to ask throughout the day!

Were there any helpful resources (books, websites, webinars, etc) you used to get through prerequisites courses, the application or interview process? I used websites like the PA Platform to help me understand the application process. I had very little understanding of what makes a successful application when I started, so it was helpful to reference advice from previous applicants about what helped them. I also prepared for interviews using a prep book another student passed down to me. That being said, I think the most helpful thing was attending different programs information sessions. Hearing directly from a program what they look for helped me tailor my responses to better appeal to each individual program!

Any advice for other pre-PA students? You don’t have to take the expected route, there is only one way to get accepted! Even though it feels like you have to take certain classes and be involved with specific things, the programs want to see that you are an individual that can bring a unique perspective to their program. Of course they want to see continued volunteering and involvement in organizations, but get involved with things you actually care about whether they are medically related or not. You should be able to demonstrate that you have a passion and interest for the things on your resume, not that you volunteered at the hospital just because you thought you should! For me, that meant that I pursued a Business degree instead of a traditional science major because I was interested in having that kind of background. I also volunteered with my church and started a service project to benefit homeless women because those were causes that really spoke to me. In the end, I think I was better able to write about my experiences because even though they may not have been the tradition pre-health resume builders, I was able to demonstrate that I am a hard worker and am really passionate about everything I do!

Where can we find you? Instagram: @adarajpatel

Navigating the PA School Interview Process: Tips for Success

Have you submitted your applications, but haven't received any interview invites yet? Don't worry, there are still things you can do to prepare! Let's talk about the logistics and what you should consider.

First things first, what are you going to wear? Whether it's an in-person or virtual interview, dressing professionally is key. Make sure you have a good setup with proper lighting. Trust me, you don't want to end up in a situation where the camera is awkwardly positioned above you. It's better to use your laptop, set it up straight on, and place the Zoom window at the top of the screen. That way, you won't be looking down or constantly shifting your gaze. If possible, try to find a well-lit office setting for your interview.

Now, let's think about the logistics. Do you need any assistance? Consider if you require childcare, pet care, or someone to cover for you at work. It's a good idea to give them a heads up about potential last-minute commitments. I've seen people in online groups facing issues where their employers wouldn't allow time off for interviews. In those cases, some people even suggested finding a new job that supports your career goals. Hopefully, your employer will be supportive, but it's always better to plan ahead and line up any necessary help.

When it comes to in-person interviews, you generally don't need to bring much with you unless it's specifically requested. Some schools may ask for a headshot or an updated resume, so it's worth carrying those items. If you have any additional documents or a sealed letter of recommendation, bring those too. A small bag or portfolio might come in handy, but keep in mind that most schools provide folders, pens, and notepads during the interview, so you won't need a bunch of extra stuff.

One important tip: keep distractions to a minimum. Switch off your Apple Watch and silence your phone. You don't want anything to interrupt your interview. Sometimes, schools may ask for a headshot on the spot or take a photo of you during the interview. Don't be alarmed by this—it's a normal practice. As for the image itself, a simple headshot against a blank wall with natural lighting works perfectly fine. You don't need to go all out for a professional photoshoot.

Now, here's a common question: does it make a difference if you choose in-person or virtual interviews? Honestly, most schools don't have a preference. There might be a subtle bias toward in-person meetings due to the personal connection, but it's not a significant factor. In fact, some programs split their available spots, offering a balance between in-person and virtual interviews to avoid favoring one over the other. So, choose the format that suits you best based on your schedule and preferences. The schools won't hold it against you—they're giving you the option for a reason.

What can you expect during a group session with current students? Typically, it's an opportunity to have informal conversations, ask questions, and gain insights about the program from a student's perspective. Sometimes, these students might also participate in the interview process and ask you questions. Treat these interactions as part of the interview day, maintaining professionalism throughout. Avoid discussing anything sketchy or strange—remember, the entire day is an interview, and impressions matter.

Now, let's talk about standing out during the interview. The best advice I can give you is to be yourself. Be happy and excited to be there, despite the nervousness you'll inevitably feel. Embrace your authenticity and genuineness!

Rock those interviews, my friend. You've got this!

Interview Prep for Your PA School Interview

Preparing for interviews is an exciting and crucial step after submitting your application. There's no time to take a break between finishing your application and getting ready for your interview - it's go time! Although it can be exhausting, interview invites can come quickly after submission, so being prepared is essential. While virtual interviews have become more prevalent in recent years, they bring their own set of challenges, balancing convenience with the inability to physically experience the program. But don't worry, in the Interview Prep Webinar (LINK), we cover various aspects of interview logistics and share valuable insights on interview types, group activities, time limits, and maximizing your impact during short interview sessions. Let's dive into the key takeaways from this webinar to help you confidently navigate the interview process.

Timing and Flexibility

Interview invitations can come at unpredictable times, so it's crucial to be prepared regardless of your plans or engagements. While some schools still conduct in-person interviews, I expect a mix of virtual and in-person formats going forward. Virtual interviews offer flexibility, but they may lack the personal connection that visiting a program can provide. However, candidates who have experienced virtual interviews share positive feedback, indicating that it's still possible to connect with faculty members and feel good about the program.

Navigating Conflicts

Conflicts arising from interview dates colliding with prior commitments or travel plans can pose challenges. The ability to request a change in the interview date varies from school to school. Keep in mind that schools have limited spots available, so accommodating individual scheduling preferences may not always be feasible. This is where virtual interviews have an advantage for those with travel plans, as they allow flexibility to participate from any location. In situations where attending an interview becomes impractical, declining the invitation may be necessary, although it can be disappointing.

Post-Interview Waiting Game

The waiting period for post-interview decisions can vary among schools. Some schools provide decisions within a couple of weeks, while others may wait until all interviews are completed. Once you receive an acceptance (hooray!) you’ll typically have a limited timeframe, usually two weeks, to respond and secure your seat by submitting a deposit. It's important to be financially prepared for deposits that can range from a hundred to several thousand dollars.

Interview Types and Expectations

To do well in interviews, it's helpful to familiarize yourself with different interview formats and question types. Traditional interviews involve straightforward question-and-answer sessions, while situational and ethical questions may require role-playing or scenario-based responses. Behavioral questions assess how you handle various situations and conflicts. Multiple mini interviews (MMIs) are becoming increasingly popular and may involve stations with different types of questions or scenarios, emphasizing critical thinking and problem-solving skills. You can learn more about all types of interviews in The PA School Interview Guide or in the Interview Course!

Group Activities and Essay Components

Group activities during interviews often assess collaboration and communication skills. These activities involve candidates working together to discuss scenarios or solve problems. It's crucial to actively participate, respect others' opinions, and demonstrate effective teamwork. Essay components, if included, are usually short and completed within a specific time limit. They may involve responding to an interview question or analyzing an article. These exercises primarily aim to evaluate your ability to express thoughts concisely and thoughtfully.

Optimizing Your Answers and Time

While certain interview formats, such as MMIs, may have time limits, it's important to focus on providing comprehensive and meaningful responses rather than strictly adhering to specific time constraints. In general, most people tend to speak for around a minute to a minute and a half per answer. Practicing and timing your responses in mock interviews can help you gauge your speaking pace and ensure that you strike a balance between providing sufficient information and being concise. Remember to stay focused, avoid repetition, and make your answers impactful!

Preparing for interviews is an exciting and active process that requires continuous effort and self-reflection. The PA Platform team is here to support you through this journey! Our Pre-PA Coaches offer mock interviews that will help you be prepared and confident heading into your interview. Sign up for a Mock Interview here!

Remember to stay positive, be yourself, and showcase your unique qualities and experiences. Good luck!


Prepping for PA School Applications as a Junior in College

As my sophomore year of college came closer to an end, I began eagerly planning out what my upcoming summer would consist of. With my EMT course having been canceled in January, I ultimately decided to sign up for the class offered during the summer. Along with this, I also decided to begin my work in my research lab over the summer through participating in a Summer Scholars Program offered by my University where undergraduate students work in research throughout the summer and present it at the end to the entire program.

As a general overview, my research primarily consists of trying to delete a specific transcription factor within a pathway involved in early microglial cell recruitment to glioblastoma tumors.

During the summer, my schedule quickly got busy as I spent most of the weekdays working in lab and my weekends going to EMT class and clinicals. I was gaining knowledge about both fields faster than I imagined and started to become more confident within both areas quicker than I expected. Although my summer was extremely busy and left little time for relaxation, I learned so much and gained a lot of hands-on experience in the lab and EMT field of work. Not only did this busy time period strengthen my knowledge within my research project, but also further confirmed my desire to explore the Emergency Medicine specialty.

Going into junior year, I was extremely excited to continue my research and EMT course, along with finding a PA to shadow with my EMT instructor’s help. While each of these things were great opportunities for me and helped me feel that I am finally starting to fulfill some of the requirements for applications to PA school, I soon learned I needed to more importantly do was manage my time properly. Due to all these extracurriculars occurring at the same time as a full schedule of classes, I began to struggle to keep up with my schoolwork and getting the grades I wanted. I continued with this schedule longer than I should have hoping I would figure it out but ended up realizing I needed to work on my time management. 

As the semester ended and Christmas break commenced, I had a lot of self-reflection on the previous semester and the struggles I faced with improper time management. I decided to pause on shadowing and continue it within the next summer and passed my EMT boards to have this certification moving forward. I planned out my following spring semester with a lighter load of courses to make up for the previous semester and learned from my mistake of improper time management.

As the spring semester began, I continued with my research lab and planned on attending a conference to present my work at. This conference was for the Association of Southern Biologists, and I was presenting through Tri Beta Honors Society in Little Rock, Arkansas. The semester school-wise was a great improvement in not only grades but also learning how to properly balance my research lab and time with friends well with coursework. This semester also provided me with improvement within my presentation skills due to my research conference in Little Rock being a poster presentation for a 4 hour time period.

Going into the summer, it has been booked with finishing shadowing a couple Pas in the Emergency Room and adding onto my volunteer hours. With this next year being my last before I start applying to PA schools, I am planning on continuing to keep good time management along with confidence in my preparation as the application start date approaches.

Overall, this past year has been filled with learning experiences and growth. Between finding opportunities to fulfill various areas of the PA school application and figuring out how to manage them with a full load of classes, this year has pushed me and allowed for me to grow in many ways personally and within my application. Even though completing the various areas of the application can be very exciting and intriguing, it is important to ensure you are prioritizing schoolwork as well and ensuring you give yourself a proper amount of time for studying and homework, because having good time management will be a great skill to attain when entering PA school!

Read Ashley’s Prepping for PA School Applications as a Freshman blog post here!


Everything You Should Know About the Casper Test for PA School Applications 

We all love another test added to physician assistant school application requirements, right? Just kidding! But the Casper test is pretty unique in that you can’t really study for it. If your eyes just bulged a little, don’t worry. I’m going to break down everything you can do to prepare and what you need to know going into this exam. 

To start off on a positive note, think of this exam as an opportunity to show the admissions committee a little more about who you actually are outside of grades and stats, which hopefully gives you a higher chance of getting an interview or acceptance. Some programs are also requiring the entire Altus Suite, which is a combination of assessments - Casper, Snapshot, and Duet. We’ll cover those here as well. 

What is the Casper test?

First of all, the Casper test is behavioral based and meant to judge your responses to ethical and difficult scenarios in a time-based manner. This makes it different than a strategy or knowledge-based test like the GRE or PA-CAT that are also sometimes required for PA school applications. Essentially, due to entering a profession in healthcare as a PA where you will inevitably be faced with some very difficult situations, schools are looking for a way to assess your on-your-feet decision making skills. The exam currently costs $40 to take and $12 to send to each additional PA program. 

During the test, you’ll complete two sections. One where you type responses and the other where you record a video response. Some of the scenarios are word-based and some are video-based. This can feel very strange if you aren’t used to frequently typing or videoing yourself. Each of the presented scenarios will be followed by 3 open-ended questions, and you will have 5 minutes to respond to each of the questions if typing, or 1 minute to respond by video. Expect the exam to take around 2 hours to complete. 

You will need a computer with a webcam and microphone to participate in the Casper test. This may also be necessary if you do virtual interviews, so we have a few that we recommend in our Amazon store. This test doesn’t happen in a testing center, so you’ll need a quiet place at home or if that’s not an option, see if your local library or university has a room you can rent. 

Why do PA schools use the Casper test?

The PA school application process has portions that are objective and portions that are subjective. When assessing an applicant on paper, it can be difficult to narrow down the field to a select few that will receive interviews, and even fewer that will receive acceptances. The academic preparedness is extremely important, and can be demonstrated through grade performance, but that doesn’t often show personality. On the Casper website, you’ll find a list of the qualities Casper assesses for, which includes: collaboration, communication, empathy, equity, ethics, motivation, problem solving, professionalism, resilience, and self awareness. 

Schools use the scores from the test as a way to look for red flags and as just a piece of the decision making process when forming their classes. As with all of the application sections, each program is going to put different weights on different parts of the application, and some may look at the Casper exam more heavily than others. At the time of writing this article in 2022, there are 49 PA programs requiring the Casper exam. 

Can you study for the Casper test?

Practicing skills such as typing responses to questions on the spot and videoing yourself are ways to feel more comfortable with the format of the exam. This may not improve results necessarily, but familiarity will lead to more readiness on test day. Make sure to do a system check with the software and all of your equipment to avoid any technical issues. 

There is a free practice exam on the Casper website and I highly recommend taking that before your real thing to help you get a bit more comfortable with the process and what to expect. If you have a copy of the PA School Interview Guide, check out the chapters on MMI and Ethical questions to help prepare for the content of the Casper exam. It seems like the timing of the exam is what causes many people to struggle when discussed in the Pre-PA Club Facebook group. Make sure to take this into account when you’re preparing, and if you feel you “messed up” in one section, be ready to let it go quickly and move on to the next question. 

A few simple tips are to smile, sit up straight, and make sure you’re comfortable. Nerves are normal, just like with an interview, but you can’t let them stand in the way of your performance. Spelling is not considered in your typed responses, so don’t worry about that too much. The Casper FAQ states that typed responses can be either bullet or paragraph form so I would practice both to see which you prefer. 

When should I take the Casper test?

If a school requires the Casper exam, it should be stated on the PA program website, along with any notable deadlines or test dates. It is recommended that you sign up at least 3 days before your desired test date to make sure you have time for verifying your identity and any payment issues. Testing accommodations are available, but must be requested with documentation 3 weeks before your exam. Scores can take 2-3 weeks to be distributed to programs, and are sent automatically to the programs you assign. 

It’s important to note that Casper scores are only good for one application cycle, so if you do need to reapply later, you would also potentially need to repeat the exam. 

What is a good Casper score?

The scoring of the Casper exam is interesting because it is actually rated by a team of people. Anecdotally, I previously graded standardized 8th grade essays in Georgia before I started PA school, and I imagine the training and scoring system are similar. We had to extensively go through essays to train and qualify by scoring a specific set of essays and continually had quality checks throughout scoring. Each rater scores a different scenario, which is somewhat similar to an MMI style interview, but schools will not see your individual responses to questions. 

One thing about the Casper test that is a little different is that you will not receive a score, but a quartile that shows your performance relative to your peers for the typed part of the exam. This is similar to how the PANCE is scored. Only the schools will see how you did and will have their own criteria on what makes a “good” Casper score. 

Is the Casper assessment hard? 

While there’s no material to study, the Casper exam isn’t “hard” in that sense. On the other hand, it’s a fast paced judgment test, and that may be stressful. I recommend using all of the time given to respond and practicing ahead of time by thinking or writing out your responses to questions. Using MMI techniques to show versus tell will also be helpful to make sure you are fully covering everything for each prompt. 

Can you fail the Casper test?

It wouldn’t necessarily be considered failing, but there is a chance that your score falls in the lowest quartile for the typed section, and this is the only information you’ll have access to. Don’t let that get you down too much though because the video section is not included in this and you may have done well in that portion. You cannot retake the Casper exam more than once in the same application cycle. 

What is Snapshot and Duet? 

Other parts of the Altus Suite assessment, outside of the Casper test, include Snapshot and Duet, and these are also being required more regularly now. Snapshot is basically a video interview, but no one is actively asking you questions. You know how I always say to practice interview skills by videoing yourself? That’s also a great way to practice for Snapshot. The sample questions listed for the Snapshot portion are very similar to traditional interview questions that frequently come up. 

Duet is similar, but more specific to a program and will help to show how a program fits what you specifically are looking for. We never want to apply on stats alone, but on a connection to feeling a program is a mutual great fit. 

These parts of the assessment are included when you sign up for Casper, so even if a program you’re not currently applying for doesn’t require them, it may be in your best interest to complete these portions in case you need them later. Each section should only be an extra 15 minutes or so, and these parts can be completed anytime after you book Casper and within 14 days of actually taking the test. 


Hopefully, all of this information makes you feel a bit less stressed about the process. If you are a reasonable person with common sense and some empathy towards your patients, I think you’ll be just fine. Always remember that the application process is complex with a lot of gray area and many factors that account for your success, so if you struggle with one portion, you have other opportunities to shine. 


Accepted: Emily - University of Michigan - Flint

Undergraduate education: Ferris State University

Overall GPA: 3.5

Science GPA: 3.4

GRE: 318

PA-CAT: Did not take

Total PCE hours: 2500, CNA, PT tech, and MA for a plastic surgeon

Total HCE hours: 200, Pediatric Unit Volunteer (Candy striper!)

Shadowing hours: 20 - Shadowed Ortho PAs during downtime at work

Volunteer hours: 200, a variety of college and personal involvements throughout my college career

How many times did you apply?:  3

Age: 26

Gender: Female


Why PA? I chose PA after shadowing various positions in the medical field. I saw how PAs were able to bridge the gap between patients and providers. They bring well-rounded care to those who need it. I wanted to have a career that allowed me to provide comprehensive care, while forming trusting relationships with my patients.

How many programs did you apply to? 8, then 5, then 4

How many programs did you interview with and what were the outcomes? 3, two waitlist, one acceptance

Where will you be attending? University of Michigan - Flint (First Cohort!)

Anything you found interesting about interviews? How quickly your mind goes blank! It's like you get in there and you've never done anything in your life! Preparation (and maybe a little reminder note) is key!

Were there any helpful resources (books, websites, webinars, etc) you used to get through prerequisites courses, the application or interview process? I used the Personal Statement email process and found that helpful to keep me on track.

Any advice for other pre-PA students? Keep going. When I had my second round of rejections, I was so close to giving up on PA school. I told myself I'd have one more chance because this was something that I wanted so badly and it paid off. I'm succeeding in PA school and have fallen more in love with the career. If it's something you really want to do, go out and make it happen!

Where can we find you? (Instagram, TikTok, Website, etc) - Insta: @thatemmilygirl


Accepted: Qui - UT Southwestern

Undergraduate education: Prairie View A&M University

Overall GPA: 3.34

Science GPA: 3.57

GRE: 291

PA-CAT: Did not take

Total PCE hours: 8,600 Hours as a Dental Assistant

Total HCE hours: 3,000 Hours as a Dental Assistant

Shadowing hours: 88 hours- 33 in-person shadowing with Internal Med MD and 55 virtual shadowing with PAs

Volunteer hours: Around 150 hours- gulf coast regional blood center, 7 cups (virtual), momentum education (virtual), Crisis Cleanup (virtual)

How many times did you apply?:  1

Age: 27

Gender: Female

Why PA? To expand medical expertise, lateral mobility, ability to collaborate during difficult medical dilemmas, being a face within healthcare minorities could identify with

How many programs did you apply to? 17

How many programs did you interview with and what were the outcomes? Received 5 invites, did 3 interviews, 1 acceptance and 2 waitlists

Where will you be attending? UT Southwestern

Anything you found interesting about interviews? Some interviewers were quite encouraging

Were there any helpful resources (books, websites, webinars, etc) you used to get through prerequisites courses, the application or interview process? Savanna Perry’s book, “Doing Right” by Philip hebert, MMI interview book by BeMo

Any advice for other pre-PA students? Do not compare yourself- you are on your own journey. Worrying about others takes away from your time working on your application. Work on your application as soon as possible and apply early if you can!

Where can we find you? (Instagram, TikTok, Website, etc) - Instagram: the_pa_saint


Accepted: Karla - George Washington University

Undergraduate education: Towson University

Overall GPA: 3.49

Science GPA: 3.43

GRE: 307

PA-CAT: Did not take

Total PCE hours: 32,250. I worked as a dermatology medical assistant at a private office. I worked as an ED technician at Johns Hopkins Hospital

Total HCE hours: 685. I worked as a Spanish interpreter and caregiver for adults with disabilities during the pandemic.

Shadowing hours: 221. For an entire summer, I shadowed a PA and MD that were hand specialists. I was really able to sit down and compare the differences between a physician and a PA and learned how they collaborated with one another. I shadowed a PA in dermatology, an MD in brain and spine, and went to Ecuador (where my parents are originally from) to shadow a physician. I was able to learn how medicine was practiced in a third world country

Volunteer hours: 490. I was super involved in my sorority’s philanthropy Autisms Speaks, I volunteered in hospitals, Spanish organization camp counselor, math tutor for title 1 middle school

How many times did you apply?:  1

Age: 23

Gender: Female

Why PA? I want to be a PA because I want to make a difference in the medical care that minorities receive. My goal is to advocate for disabled patients rights, reduce racial disparity, and use my understanding of cultural differences to establish a good rapport with patients.

How many programs did you apply to? 10

Where will you be attending? George Washington University

Were there any helpful resources (books, websites, webinars, etc) you used to get through prerequisites courses, the application or interview process? Savanna Perry’s book, it was such a smooth and easy read that perfectly laid out the do’s and dont’s of an interview. There is absolute GOLD advice in that book that makes me super glad to have read it before my interviews!

Any advice for other pre-PA students? Do not compare your GPA to everyone else. Worst mistake I ever made and I’m glad I didn’t apply to another masters program to raise my GPA! The truth is, you are being looked at all over. Your application can shine bright in one area but not the other. I knew going into this application cycle that my GPA was the weakest point but that I had to find my strengths. I wanted to prove to the admissions that I wasn’t going to let that define me and instead focused on diversifying my experience. I strongly suggest Pre- PA’s to take a short CNA course at their local community college and work in the ED as a technician. This is such a rewarding, humbling, and challenging job that gave me so much growth as an individual and future provider. I was able to really have an understanding of what collaboration looked like in pressuring moments. Lastly, be proud of yourself. You have worked so hard to get to this point so take a moment to let that sink in.

Where can we find you? (Instagram, TikTok, Website, etc) - @karlaurgilezz


Accepted: Olivia - South College

Undergraduate education: University of Southern California

Overall GPA: 3.57

Science GPA: 3.58

GRE: 314

PA-CAT: Did not take

Total PCE hours: 3,120; I gained my patient care experience by working as a medical assistant in three different offices over the course of my undergraduate education and throughout my gap year. I worked in a cosmetic dermatology office in Los Angeles, CA (I discovered this position through the Pre-PA club at USC), a medical dermatology office at home in NH, and finally an internal medicine office in St. Louis, MO (where I am currently living with my boyfriend, until we move to our next destination for PA school)! I highly recommend obtaining hours as a medical assistant, as I have acquired and sharpened skills ranging from taking a manual BP, to assisting in sterile excisions, administering an ECG, giving IM and subcutaneous injections, venipuncture, and so much more.

Total HCE hours: I believe I had about 500 healthcare experience hours. I gained this experience during my time as a medical assistant, when helping out in the front office: taking phone calls, scheduling patients, completing prior authorizations on prescriptions, etc. I also worked at Children’s Hospital Los Angeles as a clinical research assistant during the early part of my undergraduate education, and this helped to contribute to those hours as well.

Shadowing hours: I had 120 hours of shadowing experience. This was acquired over several summers of going to stay with family in South Florida and shadowing at a Level I Trauma Center where my aunt is a trauma nurse.

Volunteer hours: 1,230; I focused a lot on service throughout high school and college. These hours are a conglomeration of experiences: serving as a campus ambassador for Gift of Life, volunteering for philanthropic events for my sorority Alpha Delta Pi, serving as Chaplain for my sorority, teaching science for a semester in an underserved elementary school in LA through USC JEP program, as well as volunteer work at Children’s Hospital Los Angeles during my time as a research assistant.

How many times did you apply?:  1

Age: 23

Gender: Female

How many programs did you apply to? 11
How many programs did you interview with and what were the outcomes? Out of the eleven programs I applied to, I have received four interview invites. I interviewed with three programs and declined the fourth invite, because at that point I had already received an acceptance. From the three interviews, I have been accepted to one program, waitlisted at one program, and I am still waiting to hear from the third.

Where will you be attending? My acceptance is to South College in Nashville, TN!

Were there any helpful resources (books, websites, webinars, etc) you used to get through prerequisites courses, the application or interview process? Savanna's PA Platform Interview Guide was key for strong interview preparation.

Any advice for other pre-PA students? Be yourself in your interview (while remaining professional, of course). I found that sharing stories of my experiences with patients helped to put me at ease during the interviews, and also allowed me to highlight my strengths and personality.

Where can we find you? (Instagram, TikTok, Website, etc) - @oliviasanderson32 on Instagram


Patient Care Career Alternatives: Respiratory Therapy

Sponsored by Jacksonville University 

One of the best parts of working in medicine is collaborating with other healthcare professionals to provide the best patient care possible! As future medical professionals, we often have the same end goal - helping people. It sounds cliche, but medicine is a great way to achieve this goal while improving the quality of life for many. Becoming a physician assistant is a great choice, but it’s not the only allied health option that allows you to get one-on-one time with patients. I’ve teamed up with Jacksonville University’s (JU) Master of Science in Respiratory Care (MSRC) program to share some insights into the respiratory therapist (RT) healthcare career track. The goal of The PA Platform has always been to provide exposure to possible healthcare career paths; respiratory therapy is a great option for anyone who wants to make an impact on patients (in a way just as important as breathing)!

What is a Respiratory Therapist? 

A respiratory therapist (RT) is a healthcare practitioner with advanced knowledge of the cardiopulmonary system: how it works, the diseases that affect this system, how to treat these diseases, and more. If you’ve been in the hospital for any reason, you’ve likely seen an RT at work without knowing it. Respiratory therapists perform a range of duties including providing oxygen and aerosol therapy (breathing treatments), performing physical exams, and managing mechanical ventilators and other life support machines.

“Intubation” has been a popular word over the last few years, but you may have not realized that in many cases, RTs are the personnel responsible for these important procedures. Respiratory therapists are expected to display high levels of critical thinking, interpersonal communication, and clinical assessment skills as they oftentimes work in high-pressure situations.

Where can Respiratory Therapists work?

Respiratory therapists can work in a variety of locations including outpatient settings such as home care, physicians’ offices, clinical research facilities, pulmonary rehab, or polysomnography labs (sleep lab) or in all extents of the hospital. Some of the areas at a hospital where you’ll see an RT are the emergency department, floor therapy, intensive care units, pre-operative and post-operative units, and neonatal and pediatric units. When I had my daughter, I remember the RTs were in the corner ready to go in case of an emergency during my C-section. There was a respiratory therapist for both me and my daughter and I spotted the tiniest endotracheal tube for babies, which was not much bigger than a straw, that, thankfully, we didn’t need.

Respiratory therapists can also enjoy the flexibility of becoming travel therapists or seek excitement by becoming transport therapists. There are also academic and leadership opportunities, and having an advanced degree like a master’s in respiratory therapy opens more doors for growth; non-practicing RTs can become simulation educators, teachers in higher education institutions, or even ventilation specialists. A graduate-level degree in respiratory care allows an individual's options to go beyond the emergency room or critical care units.

How to Become a Respiratory Therapist?

Much like a physician assistant, RTs are in high demand. The profession is expected to see a 23% increase in job growth by 2030, per the U.S. Bureau of Labor and Statistics. Jacksonville University is one of only nine programs in the country that offer a graduate program in respiratory care. While there are associate and bachelor respiratory therapy programs, a graduate degree is becoming the future hiring standard for respiratory therapists. 

The MSRC program at Jacksonville University shares similar admissions requirements as PA school due to its competitive nature; you will need to have completed your bachelor’s degree prior to admission, write a statement of intent, obtain a letter of recommendation, and interview for the program. Like PA school, you can receive your bachelor’s in any desired area that fulfills the required prerequisites (many are shared with PA school as well). Prerequisite classes include algebra, chemistry, human anatomy and physiology, microbiology, physics, psychology, and statistics.  

What can you expect from a Respiratory Care program?

Using the Jacksonville University MSRC program as an example, the program provides students with both the knowledge and skillset to ensure that graduates are prepared for a successful career in respiratory therapy. Jacksonville University has partnered with Rush University, a Chicago-based university widely known for its success in credentialing certified respiratory therapists and registered respiratory therapists, to create a program that combines high-quality academic learning with hands-on clinical placement in local top-tier health systems. 

Last week on The Pre-PA Club Podcast, JU MSRC Program Director, Amanda Dexter, emphasized how evidence-based medicine is used to develop and implement patient care plans specific to the cardiopulmonary system. Programs like Jacksonville University’s MSRC teach patient education on acute and chronic lung diseases, learn how to run disease management programs for specific diseases, and prepare graduates for the careers ahead of them. Like any other allied health program, you want to feel confident in your knowledge and training, especially when performing life-saving procedures.

This two-year program is broken up into didactic and clinical sections, another similarity to PA programs. In the first year of an RT program, students can expect to learn the fundamentals of identifying, preventing, and treating acute and chronic cardiopulmonary dysfunctions. By going in-depth into the anatomy and physiology of the cardiopulmonary system and the pathophysiology of respiratory disturbances and diseases, you’ll get a solid understanding of how to help future patients. PA programs typically only spend a few weeks on these specific topics.

First-year curricular content for respiratory therapy includes pharmacology, gas laws/theorems, principles of mechanical ventilation (and maintenance), how to identify and correct acid-base disruptions, and fundamentals of performing a full respiratory assessment in the Jacksonville University Healthcare Simulation Center. PA school barely touches on this information, but this is the mainstay of respiratory therapy practice. The foundation of your education will continue to build in the second year during clinical rotations. 

The second year of the program focuses on the development of strong clinical skills and prepares graduates for national board exams and state licensure. Clinicals are the fun part of education – you get to apply the knowledge and practices you’ve gained while learning from experienced practitioners. Students will become familiar with administering oxygen or aerosol therapy, obtaining blood gas samples for analysis, performing secretion removal maneuvers, as well as initiating, maintaining, and removing mechanical ventilation or artificial airways. Lots of hands-on experience!

I hope this gives you a good inside look into the respiratory therapy profession and maybe a new option to put on your list of career choices. If you have any questions or are seeking guidance into the field, please reach out to Jacksonville University at graduateadmissions@ju.edu, and any RTs you know! 


Accepted: Charlie - The University of Tennessee Health Science Center

Undergraduate education: Eastern Kentucky University

Overall GPA: 3.37

Science GPA: 3.31

GRE: 312 (161V, 151Q, 4.0 writing)

PA-CAT: Did not take

Total PCE hours: 3900 hours: I worked as a nursing care tech (CNA) at a hospital on a med/surg floor and then in a CVICU for the majority of my hours. I also worked as a MA at an outpatient recovery center.

Total HCE hours: 1277 hours: I worked as an anesthesia tech and briefly as an allergy tech. The anesthesia tech position probably could have been PCE, but only around ~30% of my job was direct patient care so I chose to list it under HCE and provide a clear explanation of my role.

Shadowing hours: 150 hours with PAs, MDs, DOs, NPs and an athletic trainer. I chose to include all these roles because each helped me define "Why PA?" and not another healthcare profession. My first PA shadowing experience was through a connection on Instagram! Working at an academic hospital helped make many connections, but one PA I shadowed came from sending out countless emails I got from the directory of my state PA organization.

Volunteer hours: 230 hours: I had a few different volunteer roles but most of my hours came from working at a Ronald McDonald Charities house and at a local equine therapy center called Justin's Place. Pro tip: find a volunteer opportunity you are truly passionate about, not something just to fill a requirement. I learned so much about my time at Justin's Place and would still volunteer there during PA school if I hadn't moved!

How many times did you apply?:  2

Age: 31

Gender: Female

Why PA? I was first interested in sports medicine because of my background in powerlifting and bodybuilding. That grew and changed a lot as I had more exposure in healthcare. Today my "why" is that I want to serve populations that are often highly stigmatized even within the healthcare system and whose care can be compromised by bias. My primary interest is in addiction medicine where PAs have a growing role nationwide. Becoming a physician assistant allows me to begin serving these patients quickly while allowing the flexibility to do so in many settings and specialties. For example, patients suffering with substance use disorder are not seen just in recovery or psych settings but emergency medicine, cardiothoracic surgery, internal medicine and more.

How many programs did you apply to? 1 school first cycle, mostly to get experience with the process. 15 schools the second time.

How many programs did you interview with and what were the outcomes? I got a lot of interview invites (and rejections), but interviewed with 2 schools early on and was accepted to both so I turned down my other interviews.

Where will you be attending? I am attending UTHSC in Memphis, TN!

Anything you found surprising about interviews? Probably just the variety. I only did zoom interviews. I interviewed at one school that was strictly MMI, 5 timed rounds and it was almost entirely clinical situations. The other school was only two interviewers, 20 minutes each, the content of the interview was pretty expected. But other schools I received invites for were in person with varying formats. I was also waitlisted at a school that didn't do interviews at all! So that was a big surprise.

Were there any helpful resources (books, websites, webinars, etc) you used to get through prerequisites courses, the application or interview process? OMG so many things! Khan academy for general chemistry, tutors for organic, I've been following the PA Platform for a long time and have networked with a lot of PAs who have all been incredible resources. I did read the Personal Statement Guide and Interview Guide by Savanna Perry and How To "Ace" The Physician Assistant School Interview in prepping for interviews. I used a few different services for my personal statement, experiences and COVID essay. I also did mock interviews with some of my mentors and the PA platform!

Any advice for other pre-PA students? I spent a LOT of money on different resources that I honestly probably didn't need to and think I it mostly driven by being insecure about my application. Ugh. Definitely regret all the doubt I had about myself. We all have so many unique things to offer and some schools will see it and others won't and that's okay! It also created some conflicting opinions on how to edit my application. Deeper in the process I had a better sense of myself and how I wanted to present myself but it took a lot of work to get there. More technical advice: tell people early and often you want to be a PA, I had a lot of doors opened from doing just that. Get hours early, even if you are just doing a little at a time. GPA is HARD to correct (not impossible though!) so prioritize your academics. It's one of those things that most programs draw a strict line on what they take and don't and you want to keep your options open.

Where can we find you? (Instagram, TikTok, Website, etc) - @pa_tientcare on Instagram is the best place to find me





Accepted: Lyndsey - Rosalind Franklin University

Undergraduate Education: Marquette University

Overall GPA: 4.0

Science GPA: 4.0

GRE: 320

PA-CAT: Did not take

Total PCE hours: 1600- I worked at a summer camp for children with disabilities for 4 summers, a Certified Nursing Assistant (CNA) in an assisted living facility for 1 summer, and a Patient Care Technician (PCT) in a hospital for 1 summer.

Total HCE hours: 450- I volunteered in hospitals once a week for 5 years.

Shadowing hours: 80 hours- in high school, I completed a 3 week, full time internship at a local hospital where I was able to observe all units of the hospital. This was such a fun experience that made me realize I wanted to be a Physician Assistant (PA) when I followed one on a post-surgical floor. I was also able to scrub in to observe surgery and watch a C section!

Volunteer hours: 100- In college, I volunteered in various soup kitchens and homeless shelters throughout Milwaukee, WI.

How many times did you apply?:  2 times (once into my school’s direct admit program as a sophomore, and once as a senior while completing my undergraduate degree).

Age: 22

Gender: Female

Why PA? My dream of becoming a Physician Assistant (PA) was sparked when I was diagnosed with Crohn’s Disease in middle school and solidified during a hospital internship I participated in during high school. I hope to support patients both physically and emotionally like my healthcare providers have for me throughout the years. I have always been a person with many passions, so I appreciate that as a PA I will have lateral mobility. Additionally, I have observed how PAs consult with their attending physicians. As a collaborative person who enjoys studying with my peers, I envision myself thriving in this relationship. Although the nurse practitioners have similar authority to PAs, I learned they are educated in the nursing model. Since I am fascinated by the biological and pathological aspects of health, the disease-centered model, which the PA curriculum is built on, is a better fit for me.

How many programs did you apply to? 11

How many programs did you interview with and what were the outcomes? 3 interviews- 2 acceptances!

Where will you be attending? Rosalind Franklin University

Anything you found surprising about interviews? I had no “traditional” interviews. I completed two MMI interviews and one group interview. Although preparing is necessary, some of the questions they ask are just to see how you react and can adapt in unique situations. Most interviewers were more friendly than I had expected, as well!

Were there any helpful resources (books, websites, webinars, etc) you used to get through prerequisites courses, the application or interview process? Yes- the PA Platform podcast was a great resource for all things PA.

Any advice for other pre-PA students? Everyone’s journey looks a little different. You might be accepted right out of undergrad, you might need to take a gap year or two… But just take the next little step every day and all of your hard work will add up when you are finally accepted to PA school! Also no experience is bad experience!

Where can we find you? (Instagram, TikTok, Website, etc) - TikTok- @lynds.fit.pa Instagram- @lyndsey.bassett


Accepted: Tanner - West Liberty University

Undergraduate Education: Grand View University

Overall GPA: 3.86

Science GPA: 3.9

GRE: 288

PA-CAT: Did not take

Total PCE hours: About 3600, obtained thorough ER scribing & ER technician

Total HCE hours: Same as PCE

Shadowing hours: Over 100, shadowing in the ER and orthopedics

Volunteer hours: 65, volunteering with inner city youth

How many times did you apply?:  1

Age: 24

Gender: Male

Why PA? Short answer? The best thing you can do with your life, is help someone else with there’s

How many programs did you apply to? 12

How many programs did you interview with and what were the outcomes? 3, 2 acceptances, one waitlist

Where will you be attending? West Liberty University

Anything you found surprising about interviews? All online and group interviews were interesting. It was unfortunate not to be able to see the campus in person.

Were there any helpful resources (books, websites, webinars, etc) you used to get through prerequisites courses, the application or interview process? Savana Perry’s mock interviews and interview book

Any advice for other pre-PA students? Be yourself in interviews. Be confident because they picked YOU. And want to get to know the real you!

Where can we find you? (Instagram, TikTok, Website, etc) - Instagram @tannerheiman


Accepted: Maddie - UT Southwestern Medical Center

Undergraduate Education: UT Austin

Overall GPA: 3.32

Science GPA: 3.2

GRE: 307, 4.0 writing

PA-CAT: Did not take

Total PCE hours: 1000+; RBT, MA, PCA

Total HCE hours: 934; scribe, hospital volunteer

Shadowing hours: 188; PA (surgery and pain management and pediatric), 24 hrs virtual shadowing

Volunteer hours: 518, hospital volunteer, nursing home, autistic center, etc

How many times did you apply?:  1

Age: 23

Gender: Female

Why PA? Love more time seen w patients(patient-centered care), lateral mobility, work-life balance

How many programs did you apply to? 9

How many programs did you interview with and what were the outcomes? 3; 1 waitlist,1 rejection, 1 acceptance

Where will you be attending? UTSW

Anything you found surprising about interviews? How arbitrary the MMI questions can be

Were there any helpful resources (books, websites, webinars, etc) you used to get through prerequisites courses, the application or interview process?Savanna Perrys interview and personal statement guide books, facebook support groups

Any advice for other pre-PA students? APPLY even if you think you aren’t competitive. As long ad you meet the requirements and believe you can bring something to the table, do it.

Where can we find you? (Instagram, TikTok, Website, etc) - Ig:@maddieinscrubs


Accepted: Mindy - Northwestern College

Undergraduate Education: Bethany Lutheran College, Mankato, MN

Overall GPA: 3.83

Science GPA: 3.66

GRE: Verbal-153. Quantitative-152. Writing-4.5

PA-CAT: Did not take

Total PCE hours: I had a total of 2,244 hours of PCE. During undergrad I worked part time as a support worker for individuals with disabilities in homecare. I worked with individuals that were nonverbal and had medical issues. To gain patient care experience I administered medications and food orally and through a g-tube. I recorded I/Os, and any changes to the clients conditions. To gain the majority of my PCE hours, I worked as a Monitor Technician in Telemetry during my gap years. As a Telemetry tech I performed and monitored patients’ vital signs including ECG. I reported any findings to RN/care team. I also performed CNA work, I/Os, ambulation, transfers, and feedings.

Total HCE hours: I had a total of 140 hours of HCE which I gained by volunteering at the hospital I worked at. I worked at the information desk where my duties were to welcome patients to the hospital, give directions, escort patients in wheelchairs if needed, and handle and deliver packages that were delivered to the hospital entrance.

Shadowing hours: I shadowed a total of 56 hours. 32 hours was with a PA working in Family Med Clinic. I met this PA through one of my home care client’s mom, who worked at the same clinic as this PA. I shadowed with a NP in cardiology at the hospital that I worked at. I was able to observed a few cardiac procedures, such as a coronary angiogram, TEE, stress test, and DCCV. I also shadowed a MD in Family Med for 8 hours.

Volunteer hours: I had a total of 156 hours of volunteering, but 140 of them were volunteering at a hospital information desk and I classified those hours as HCE. I had 24 hours of volunteering from college volleyball opportunities. I was able to collect food for the local food shelf and organize a fundraiser for cancer awareness.

How many times did you apply?:  2

Age: 23

Gender: Female

Why PA? I am passionate about being a healthcare provider that patients can trust to have their best interest in mind, feel comfortable with, and can rely on. I want to be a PA and use my knowledge, training and resources to provide superior care. From my patient care experiences I have experienced how much joy it brings me to serve patients, help them succeed, thrive and live a full life. Lastly, I am passionate about expanding access to quality healthcare in rural and underserved areas and populations in the Midwest and want to be a PA in these areas.

How many programs did you apply to? 6

How many programs did you interview with and what were the outcomes? I interviewed at 3 schools. 1 acceptance and 2 waitlists.

Where will you be attending? Northwestern College in Iowa.

Were there any helpful resources (books, websites, webinars, etc) you used to get through prerequisites courses, the application or interview process? Pre-PA social media accounts and blogs! I learned so much about current issues in the PA field and just more about the profession in general. I was able to use some of this information in my interviews. The majority of information came from the PA Platform and I watched most of their webinars and live events, read posts and blogs. These accounts/blogs also provide so much information about CASPA, the application and interview processes. I also did a mock interview with the PA Platform which helped me become more confident in myself and my answers for my interviews.

Any advice for other pre-PA students? Ask questions and ask for help! The first time I applied, I tried to research on my own, didn’t really reach out to PAs or PA students, and I didn’t find a community online of current applicants! The second time a applied I used more resources like this and felt more as ease with the process and more confident in my myself and for the interview.


Accepted: Linneah - Elon University

Undergraduate Education: Liberty University

Overall GPA: 3.9

Science GPA: 4.0

GRE: Did not take

PA-CAT: Did not take

Total PCE hours: 3000+ I worked in a local health clinic before transferring to a major hospital network where I now work as an OBGYN MA.

Total HCE hours: 1000. I started taking calls at the desk in a local health clinic and also worked in a hospital pharmacy during the COVID-19 vaccine roll out.

Shadowing hours: 100. I shadowed PAs and physicians at the hospital network where I worked through a student shadowing program.

Volunteer hours: 50. I volunteered at my church in the youth ministry and summer camps.

How many times did you apply?:  1

Age: I am 28, but was accepted at 27

Gender: Female

Why PA? I chose to become a PA instead of a physician because I’m a curious person. I wanted the flexibility of being able to change my specialty if something new struck my interest. Also, seeing the way PA’s and physicians work together, I realized I liked the collaborative nature of the PA role. Finally, there was one PA in particular who I shadowed who was just amazing with his patients. I want to “be like him” when I grow up.

How many programs did you apply to? 7

How many programs did you interview with and what were the outcomes? I had three interviews. I was accepted to two programs and waitlisted at the third.

Where will you be attending? Elon University

Anything you found surprising about interviews? It really is true, you are interviewing the school as much as they are interviewing you. The connection I had with the faculty who interviewed me really helped me to narrow down my choice of program since I was given multiple offers.

Were there any helpful resources (books, websites, webinars, etc) you used to get through prerequisites courses, the application or interview process? The PA Platform

Any advice for other pre-PA students? Take it step by step and then let it go. Love the moment you’re in, throw yourself into the challenge that is before you in this moment and don’t worry so much about things falling into place. If you work hard at the small things each day, they will.
Where can we find you? @Linneah_anne_olsen on Instagram


Accepted: Bailey - Trevecca Nazarene

Undergraduate Education: The University of Georgia

Overall GPA: 3.76

Science GPA: 3.53

GRE: 308

PA-CAT: Did not take

Total PCE hours: Upon application, I had ~1500 hours, 1460 of them being a medical assistant at an urgent care and 40 being a medical assistant at an allergy and asthma office! I applied 1 week after beginning my job as an MA at the allergy clinic.

Total HCE hours: 0

Shadowing hours: I had 44 shadowing hours total. 26 from a PA in internal medicine and 18 from a PA in neurosurgery!

Volunteer hours: ~140. I volunteered at a local hospital through their college volunteer program. I also volunteered with a local youth group through a campus ministry, and as a volunteer for the nursery at my local church!

How many times did you apply?:  1

Age: 23

Gender: Female

Why PA? I want to be a PA because I am passionate about building relationships with patients and helping them reach their full potential. I think medicine is an awesome way to help people in a variety of ways, and I love the PA path specifically because of the ability to switch specialties throughout my career.

How many programs did you apply to? 7

How many programs did you interview with and what were the outcomes? I got interview offers to 6/7 programs. My first interview was for my top choice and I was put on the high priority alternate list. My second interview was my second choice and I was accepted. I declined the following interviews. I was accepted off of the alternate list 2.5 months before classes begin!

Where will you be attending? Trevecca Nazarene

Anything you found surprising about interviews? Both of the interviews I did were very laid back. They truly want to get to know you as a person and see if you fit in with their program, they already know you as an applicant. Remember you are interviewing them too!

Were there any helpful resources (books, websites, webinars, etc) you used to get through prerequisites courses, the application or interview process? Savanna Perry’s Pre-PA Interview Guide is a lifesaver

Any advice for other pre-PA students? Have faith in yourself and trust the process. Utilize online forums and groups for other pre-PA students, they are always filled with lots of advice!
Where can we find you? Instagram- baileyhbarber